Stoner feels sorry for Ducat...

[k5 dave]

Originally Posted by drumwrecker

As I see it Stoner had the ability to ride around the Ducati problems I understand his backround was speedway and if so he was used to a bike moving around almost out of control.
Whereas Rossi is a more exact rider and he and JB had ideas about making the Ducati go but Ducati wanted to do it their way. So there is a clash of ideas getting nowhere.
A split was inevitable.
It is a pity Stoner won't be there next year to compete with the two Yamahas.
I wonder how Dovi will do with Ducati, to my mind he really is a dark horse and might just upset the apple cart, especially if he and Hayden can join forces to get the Dukes going round corners their way.
Either way it will be an interesting 2013. Bring it on.
Crutchlow???

The way it is looking Dovi will get the Ducati seat, its a shame because the Ducati seat is more suited to the way Cal rides, but its not over yet, fingers x Cal gets the seat.

[Bimbler]

Originally Posted by clumsy_geezer

I now recognise that Stoner is a brilliant ride.

Quite possibly, but is this really the place to discuss your sex life.....?

[clumsy_geezer]

Quite possibly, but is this really the place to discuss your sex life.....?

I dunno...

This site...

[silverbullet]

Originally Posted by clumsy_geezer

I dunno...

This site...

[cecil]

Stoner is an incredible talent on a race bike, I new this when I first watched him as a kid on a 125. At world championship level his abilities on a 125 and 250 were no match for the likes of Rossi, different era so well never know will we but the stats say so. Stoners first Moto GP season on a Honda wasn't very impressive was it, something perhaps he should remember. A world title followed with Ducati, a title that perhaps only Stoner could have won on a bike where the rider had to totally trust the electronics. Rossi and Burgess couldn't sort the Ducati, well anyone who has looked at J burgess's record would be very hard pressed to question the mans ability ask M.Doohan for one.
I don't think Rossi will win another world championship on the Yamaha due to age, but he won't be far off.
The best rider in the world at the moment is Lorenzo. Was once a spoilt brat on a 250, but has matured into a true sportsman and a superb rider who doesn't slag everyone off coz they were on my track during qualifying etc.

Cecil

[k5 dave]

Originally Posted by cecil

Stoner is an incredible talent on a race bike, I new this when I first watched him as a kid on a 125. At world championship level his abilities on a 125 and 250 were no match for the likes of Rossi, different era so well never know will we but the stats say so. Stoners first Moto GP season on a Honda wasn't very impressive was it, something perhaps he should remember. A world title followed with Ducati, a title that perhaps only Stoner could have won on a bike where the rider had to totally trust the electronics. Rossi and Burgess couldn't sort the Ducati, well anyone who has looked at J burgess's record would be very hard pressed to question the mans ability ask M.Doohan for one.
I don't think Rossi will win another world championship on the Yamaha due to age, but he won't be far off.
The best rider in the world at the moment is Lorenzo. Was once a spoilt brat on a 250, but has matured into a true sportsman and a superb rider who doesn't slag everyone off coz they were on my track during qualifying etc.

Cecil

Good post Cecil, but i hope you are wrong about Rossi not winning another world title, i agree it will be close, but i do believe Rossi being No2 to Lorenzo, will bring the very best out of Rossi, he has put himself into a situation where he can't blame the bike, but in the same breath he has knowingly put himself up against one of the best riders in the world, on equal machinery, so its rider against rider, now thats a very brave man to do that, so his mojo is still there, lets face it he could of stopped at Ducati for a lot more money, so in his own mind he must think he can still win, whether thats enough to win another world championship we will have to wait and see.

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[drumwrecker]

I read somewherethat Dovi had got the Ducati ride.
If you read what Hayden had to say when comparing Stoner on the Ducati and how he let the bike move under him as against Crutchlow who moves around the bike then it is understandable why Crutchlow isn't on the Factory Ducati but maybe on a satelite ride.
Personally I don't rate Crutchlow at this time as he is too wild but next year or so he may have got it all together.
There is obviously some bad feeling in the MotoGP paddock when two top riders just quit and I guess that is how MotoGP is run and the atmosphere in the paddock so have WSB got it right?

[silverbullet]

Flown back to Aus for op so guess season over for him now

[drumwrecker]

He will full fill his contract the best way he can by riding asap.
He might whinge a bit but he has pride like they all have.

[The Racketeer]

I'm kinda confused here, bikers on a forum dont rate Stoner yet folk in the racing world rate him one of the very best. Who's talking shite and who's not?

Nicky Hayden at a press conference after his maiden Ducati test "man I dont know how much they pay Casey Stoner but I think they should double it"

Valentino Rossi " Casey's performance fucked us"

Mr Nakamoto (HRC top banana) " Casey is faster than our bike"

Cal Crutchlow " The guy's amazing"

VFR forum " Casey's a wee dick and Rossi's better"

[gomez]

I think it is more that Stoner struggled to wean himself off the milk and on to a solid diet.

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Eh?

[k5 dave]

Originally Posted by The Racketeer

I'm kinda confused here, bikers on a forum dont rate Stoner yet folk in the racing world rate him one of the very best. Who's talking shite and who's not?

Nicky Hayden at a press conference after his maiden Ducati test "man I dont know how much they pay Casey Stoner but I think they should double it"

Valentino Rossi " Casey's performance fucked us"

Mr Nakamoto (HRC top banana) " Casey is faster than our bike"

Cal Crutchlow " The guy's amazing"

VFR forum " Casey's a wee dick and Rossi's better"

I don't think any forum members think Casey is a wee dick, Casey has proven over and over again he is one of the fastest guys ever to sit on a motorcycle, but he is a whinging wee dick, and will never have the charrisma of Rossi.

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They're mostly whinging prima donnas, even Rossi. It goes with the territory, I guess. The only exception that springs to mind is Colin Edwards. Why keep on about Stoner? So some people are so besotted with Rossi that they can't countenance the notion that someone might just be more talented. But Casey is history. I'm much more interested in the sparks that might fly next year, in and out of the Yamaha pit.