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VFRGirl
25-05-2005, 22:53
The VFR400 and RVF400 share basically a 400cc version of the RC30's engine, though strictly as they have heads that have shims under rockers to the valves, they are slightly different to all the 750s as far as I know. They are gear driven, 360degree crankshaft, screaming little jewels.

The VFR400 NC30 is a miniature RC30. In chassis, body style, looks and abilities. The bottom gears are really tall and closely stacked and it rides like you're holding the front spindle, just delightful in every way....except touring or commuting that is!

The bikes were made effectively from 1989 to 1994 so are at least ten years old more like 15. Every one will scrub up like new if enough effort is put in, remember that. Most are Japanese greys, imported second hand, the mileages are in Kms and are often dubious. Some bikes are UK spec, cost a fortune new and were often raced. They are the ones with big indicators, a little plastic divider in the rear lights, 55w/60 headlights, MPH clocks and a silly price tag.

The RVF400 was always a jap model. Only two models 1994 or 1996, some later bikes came to the UK in crates. There are a lot of very clean late low mileage ones, and they differ in more ways than they are similar to the NC30.

Basically ,the NC35 (RVF) has a frame like the RC45, bodywork like the RC45, tank shaped like the RC45 and the pegs and handlebars FROM the RC45. It has shorter 1st and second gears, the bars are 1" up and back and it's more relaxed and comfy to ride. As they are newer, they tend to be more standard and better looked after, but this is not always so.

Each has it's merits, and each rides slightly different. You will need to have a sit on one of each before making your mind up.

Neither bike is faster, more reliable or better in ability. The RVF is newer, more valuable to buy and sell on and looks like a newer bike because it is.This also means you can buy a second hand 600 for the price of the rvf. The VFR also has more top end than the RVF though small, rvf engine would prob be better for road with lower down grunt and lower first 2 gears vfr probabaly the better track bike.

Both can be modded successfully to give higher power anyway!

For a first scratcher though, an NC30 may be a better buy. If its dropped , the repair and costs will be less as more parts are available.

MarkJHarris
30-05-2005, 09:15
Just to add, the VFR rides and feels like a smaller RC30, and the RVF400 rides just like an RC45 except for the gearing. Why they managed to put the shorter (far more logical for a road bike) gearing in the 400 and not in the real RC45 is beyond me.

As someone who has owned RVF400s AND an RC45...I'd far prefer the 400 if I could afford to buy one and find space for it!

Always remember, the 400cc NC is not chosen because it's cheap or simple or a starter bike. It's far more capable than folk give them credit for and a lot of owners prefer them to 600cc bikes and loads more people have gone to a 400cc V4 FROM 600cc and larger than anyone could imagine.

Go on, give one a try..............

kakugo
30-05-2005, 17:15
Ehr, excuse me if I take advantage of your knowledge.
I am currently looking for a VFR/RVF 400 to use as spare hack and track bike (occasionally). I've seen a couple that looked very neat and well kept. Only thing that buggered me was the fairing colours: dealers said they were original colours, I said they were resprayed and with new stickers (for whatever reason). Is there any place to see which colours schemes were available on the bike as new? I maybe able to fetch a better price... Thanks!

Hants_Tiger
30-05-2005, 17:50
Which bike? NC30 or NC35? I dont think the NC35 came in many colours. The NC30 came in quite a few however. Dont suppose you have a pic of the one your looking at do you as I dont know a site off the top of my head but I will have a little trawl round to see what I can dig up :D

Hants_Tiger
30-05-2005, 18:24
Well the UK model NC30 only came in two colours, both of which were red/white and blue apparetnly!! I learnt somthin new there. Of course there are numerous import colour schemes too of which I cant find a site that lists or shows them all! If you could get a pic it would be great :D

VFRGirl
30-05-2005, 23:20
Here is model an bike colours produced.

VFR 400 nc30 (http://www.vsource.org/VFR-RVF_files/Bvfr400r-mi.htm)

whipitup
30-05-2005, 23:38
Probably the only bike that I've ever sold that I didnt really want to :B .

It was fantastic, and although some might argue, I thought it was much better than the NC30 I had before I really do miss it for it's faultless handling, looks, the sound it made (Race can) quality finish and the way it got looks where ever I rode it............. :bow: :bow: :bow:


I really hope the guy I sold it to has looked after it.

VFRGirl
30-05-2005, 23:41
If you ride one of these pocket rockets, you will instantly fall in love with thier growly cantones and up for it attitude :yo:

i love mine :k

kakugo
30-05-2005, 23:42
Many thanks! It looks like a very neat, Japanese import 1992 N bike, with the #8 paintjob (the white-red with HRC logo). I'll go and have a look on Saturday (hopefully).

Hants_Tiger
30-05-2005, 23:46
Love the looks of the RVF400. Then I like the looks of the RC45 too. I have only ever ridden an NC30 though so far. Love to get a go on the RVF though to see how it compares to the VFR.

Davy F
31-05-2005, 08:49
Love the RVF, but always thought that the classic RC30 colour scheme of the 400 VFR was miles better.

Hants_Tiger
31-05-2005, 09:59
Saying that we actually saw an RC30 on Sunday in the colours your on about. Did look nice :cool:

JZH
01-06-2005, 06:42
Many thanks! It looks like a very neat, Japanese import 1992 N bike, with the #8 paintjob (the white-red with HRC logo). I'll go and have a look on Saturday (hopefully).That's the one I have, btw. Sorry about the poor quality scans on my NC30 page, but they're taken directly from the Japanese parts catalogue, so at least they are accurate. I've found that people sometimes replace bits of fairing with whatever they can find, so you have to check carefully that each panel is the right one.

Ciao,

MarkJHarris
01-06-2005, 20:54
I still miss mine too!

Hants_Tiger
01-06-2005, 21:01
You would never think that the NC30 is a 16-17 year old design and the RVF must be a 10year old one by now at least! they looked great in there day and still do today :cool: :yo:

Thats a really nice example of an RVF there Mark, look very well looked after!

Elviemonster
03-06-2005, 15:44
Remember reading somewhere that, when launched in the UK, the NC30 cost more than the CBR1000 of the same time :eek: Shows that it was built up to a standard and not down to a price. Might also have been why they never sold many here. AFAIK the NC30 remained pretty much unchanged throughout it's run right up to the RVF400. How many bikes can you say that about? The RVF in itself looked incredibly trick - a true mini RC45. Hankered after one back in '95 but bought a Bandit 400 instead (insurance crippled me). Remember GreyBike saying that the RVF was a little sharper, a little more powerful but hardly worth the premium over the NC30. I'd still have an NC30 if I had the room. Love those little things :k

elv