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As time is moving on we thought it would be a good idea to start to plan our journey.
As Sven points out the ferries will be busy.
Suggestions for routes and hotel stops will be appreciated.
We plan to leave on Saturday 29th May doing 200 miles per day.
I just looked a prices Hoverspeed out on 29th back 7th £233
Eurotunnel out 29th back 7th £90 special friend discount. Any ideas on how we can get a better ferry price?
Anyone have same plans?
Our crossing details are :
Hoverspeed Seacat Dover to Calais 08:00 Saturday 29th May 04
Hoverspeed Seacat Calais to Dover 15:30 Monday 7th June 04
Dan & Jill
Good news
just spoke to Hoverspeed (tel 0870 2408070) if you quote May Apex when you book the price is £89 one adult, one bike. What a difference !!!!!
We are booked outgoing 0800hrs 29/5/04 Seacat
Return 1530hrs 7/6/04 ( Monday) local time Seacat
WooooHooooooooooo get booking
Dan & Jill
Dan,
I thnk we'll be going on the Saturday too, but probably getting a ferry over from Portsmouth to Le Havre, and then going across France that way. Could arrange to meet up somewhere perhaps, depending on the route you/we take. Will probably then take a slow ride back aiming to get back here on Sunday, again va Le Havre - Portsmouth.
If anyone wants to come that way, let me know, I've not looked into the ferry booking just yet, but we have a few options from this area. St Malo, Cherbourg, Le Havre, so can be quite flexible.
I would rather leave on the Saturday & get back on the Saturday/ early Sunday as I don't want to use too much annual leave & upset SWMBO.
Clive, I'd rather avoid the 300 mile trip to/from Dover on top of the rest of the trip, so, I'll probably follow your route. Can you post again once you've looked into the ferry booking.
Cheers
Steve
funkybill
13-12-2003, 13:54
I'm planning an early crossing preferably by ferry on Saturday, possibly stopping in Dover on the Friday night. Then motorway blast to Reims, and then cross-country via Nancy to a stop-over near Freiburg - nice roads over the Vosges and about 380 miles. Sunday, some more nice roads across the Black Forest, down to Lake Constanz and into Austria - about 250 miles.
Hadn't got as far as planning the return, as I might be riding across to a mates house in Provence if I can persuade SWMBO of the profound wisdom of this plan.........
Depending on ferry times it may be possible for the Dover & Potsmouth posse's to meet in the Reims area. Approx 160 miles from Calais & 190 from Le Havre.
Steve
Ok, just done a few ferry costings to see how they compare.
Porstmouth - Le Havre:
The price of your tickets will be 178.00GBP
Booking Details
Outward Route: Portsmouth To Le Havre
Scheduled Date/Time: Sat 29 May 2004 at 0830
Scheduled Arrival: Sat 29 May 2004 at 1500
Outward Ship: Pride of Portsmouth (Cruiseferry)
Return Route: Le Havre To Portsmouth
Scheduled Date/Time: Sun 06 June 2004 at 1630
Scheduled Arrival: Sun 06 June 2004 at 2100
Return Ship: Pride of Portsmouth (Cruiseferry)
Passengers: 2 Adults
Method of Travel: Motorcycle
Outward Accommodation: (None)
Return Accommodation: (None)
Cost: 178.00GBP
Fare Type: BROCHURE:EBO2 10DY 2004/5
Portsmouth - Cherbourg (Fast Ferry)
The price of your tickets will be 202.00GBP
Booking Details
Outward Route: Portsmouth To Cherbourg
Scheduled Date/Time: Sat 29 May 2004 at 0745
Scheduled Arrival: Sat 29 May 2004 at 1130
Outward Ship: Portsmouth Express (Fastcraft)
Return Route: Cherbourg To Portsmouth
Scheduled Date/Time: Sun 06 June 2004 at 1230
Scheduled Arrival: Sun 06 June 2004 at 1415
Return Ship: Portsmouth Express (Fastcraft)
Passengers: 2 Adults
Method of Travel: Motorcycle
Outward Accommodation: 2 Of Standard Seat
Return Accommodation: 2 Of Standard Seat
Cost: 202.00GBP
Fare Type: BROCHURE:EBO2 10DY 2004/5
Portsmouth - Caen (Fast)
The price of your tickets will be 202.00GBP
Booking Details
Outward Route: Portsmouth To Caen
Scheduled Date/Time: Sat 29 May 2004 at 0645
Scheduled Arrival: Sat 29 May 2004 at 1110
Outward Ship: CAEN EXPRESS
Return Route: Caen To Portsmouth
Scheduled Date/Time: Sun 06 June 2004 at 1200
Scheduled Arrival: Sun 06 June 2004 at 1425
Return Ship: CAEN EXPRESS
Passengers: 2 Adults
Method of Travel: Motorcycle
Outward Accommodation: 2 Of Standard Seat
Return Accommodation: 2 Of Standard Seat
Cost: 202.00GBP
Fare Type: BROCHURE:EBO2 10DY 2004/5
Although the Le Havre crossing is slightly cheaper, and slightly more convenient, I'm inclined to go on the Caen route as it's better timings. Slighlty earlier, faster crossing so an extra 4 hours to travel on the Saturday.
I'll leave it till the new year before booking, might still consider going Dover Calais if it's a good enough bargain, but I doubt it.
Clive,
Which ferry company did you check out, I can't seem to find the Caen Express.
Cheers
Steve
Sorry Steve, should have said, that's P&O. Looked at Brittany Ferries, and they're more expensive and way slower. I know it's an early start on the Satruday, so if you want to come up to me and stay here the night you're more than welcome. It's about half an hour from here to Portsmouth.
I may go ahead and book those times before Xmas (Caen route) as it's D-Day week.
Been playing around with routes etc, and here's what I've some up with so far. Staying in Rouen the first night isn't far from Caen I know, but it's a nice place to visit, so worth spending a few hours there in the daytime. And I've never been to Nancy, so that's worth a look I think. Don't know about the return route yet, may go a bit south to stay at Annecy, which is beautiful. I'm avoiding motorways wherever possible.
The ferry price is the same, i.e. £202, for a single passenger, more than twice the cost of the Dover crossing.
Unfortunately I was unable to open your map as I'm still using 2001. I don't know France at all so don't mind where we go, an overnight stop on Friday would be welcome, thanks.
Just looked on the map, Roen's about 50 miles from Le Harve, and then Nancy seems to be abot halfway to Kappl approx 350 miles.
I'm not sure yet which ferry to take, I'll give it a bit more thought over the weekend.
Cheers
Steve
Just got a quote for £81 on the train out 7.45am 29/06/04 back on the Sunday 6/07/04 if iv'e left the hotel friday morning then i should make the Sunday train.Not how/where to book a pillion on the train which is by far the best way to go you don't even know your moving.
I defo won't be able to come back on the Monday also still waiting to see if the extra hotel has been sorted.
Dan,
I thought we were coming back Sunday? The hotel is booked for 4 nights so...
Travel out Saturday, Sunday, Monday arriving Monday afternoon ish.
Stay Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday night.
Travel back Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
You may want to amend your booking or have I got this wrong?
funkybill
13-12-2003, 17:48
Clive - your route from Nancy pretty much mirrors mine. If we get a contingent coming across through Dover, we could all meet up in Nancy and do the Sunday run into Kappl together.
Mind you, remebering the experience of trying to do that on the way to the Mosel that might not be the greatest idea.......
Alun,
You looking to do it in two days (one stop over each way)?
If so why not a late train back on the Saturday and recover Sunday before back to work Monday. I may accompany you if this is what you have in mind, would only be 4 hours riding a day :goofy: :} .
We are also waiting to see if there is a bed before we book, keeping an eye on Svens Austrian thread.
Originally posted by funkybill
Clive - your route from Nancy pretty much mirrors mine. If we get a contingent coming across through Dover, we could all meet up in Nancy and do the Sunday run into Kappl together.
Mind you, remebering the experience of trying to do that on the way to the Mosel that might not be the greatest idea.......
Sounds like a good plan Bill, no reason why we can't get a hotle booked in Nancy for us all, once we've worked out exactly who's going that way. Can I suggest we look into it in the New YEar, or if someone would like to do so before then please do. I'm gonna be busy from now till after Xmas.
remembering the experience of trying to do that on the way to the Mosel that might not be the greatest idea....... If you ride the drop off system like we did on the way home then its a whole different nicer experience as folk know whats expected and so the ride is more fun for all.
Gary was also waiting to see if you had a hotel before making any plans as i'm still thinking You looking to do it in two days (one stop over each way)? I'm really pushed to spare the time, getting back late Saturday is still on my plans even if using tolls an crusing at 90mph is involved.
Unfortunately I have had to withdraw from this planned trip but if any club members are travelling a distance and would rather break the trip up a bit they are more than welcome to stay at ours the night before if they wish.
We are about an hour from Dover by the way.
Rob
OK this has me puzzledwe could all meet up in Nancy and do the Sunday run into Kappl together. The hotel is booked for Monday night?or have i got that wrong?
I'm was looking at leaving on the early train/boat SUNDAY motorway to LAON(N Roads to this point not much to write home about) refuel here onto N roads from here COLMAR or NANCY for SUNDAY night(IS this half way??COLMAR was my first thought to for hotel SUNDAY) then onto Kappel on MONDAY similar return.This means i've got saturday day at home with the kids and dropping them off with daughter.Also i get back for a wind down on the Sunday before work on Monday, cannot spare a extra day over the five on this as with AGRO/ANNI bashes needing five thats Ten days out off the annual leave gone.
May get a hotel in Dover Saturday night ready to jump a 7.00AM ferry/Train for a early crack to Colmar/Nancy.But not to bothered if its a 8.00AM would,nt need a hotel if 8.00AM as its doable from home.Staying in Rouen the first night isn't far from Caen I know, but it's a nice place to visit, so worth spending a few hours there in the daytime. And I've never been to Nancy, Seems to suggest Clive your be in Nancy on Sunday night?Well thats a brief idea on my first planColmar hotel its a Ibis (http://www.ibishotel.com/ibis/fichehotel/gb/ibi/1034/fiche_hotel.shtml) you know what you get.Map of Ibis hotels (http://www.ibishotel.com/ibis/gb/cartographie/france_ne.shtml)
PS can someone tell me how far its to Colmar using the motorway to Laon then Colmar on N roads Then onto Kappel Monday?
Or Motorway to Laon then N roads to Nancy then onto Kappel??? same route?
I'm planning an early crossing preferably by ferry on Saturday, possibly stopping in Dover on the Friday night. Then motorway blast to Reims, and then cross-country via Nancy to a stop-over near Freiburg - nice roads over the Vosges and about 380 miles. Sunday, some more nice roads across the Black Forest, down to Lake Constanz and into Austria - about 250 miles. Bill on looking my plan looks simler to yours but on differant days?
Zuri we are planning on taking it easy coming home and so are staying an extra night somewhere in France.
Jill
funkybill
14-12-2003, 12:14
:blush: :blush: :blush:
Yes you are so right Ace, I got the days cocked up.
So for me the plan stays the same but forward one day, i.e. cross early Sunday, overnight somewhere between Nancy and Freiburg, carry on to Kappl Monday via the Black Forest and N shore of Lake Constanz - my route is a lot less direct than Clives but I went to that part of the Germany years ago and there are some places I really want to see again such as Rothenburg, Lindau and Bregenz. (Plus there are some great roads.)
Laon is about 150 miles from Dover by motorway, Colmar is a further 230 by normal roads. Nancy is about 290 miles from Dover so near enough halfway on a direct route. On my route, Kappl is a total of 640 miles.
my route is a lot less direct than Clives Cannot see Clives unless someone posts it here.
I'm with you Alun, just stick a label on your back that says "THIS WAY", but none of that poodling along at 60mph ;)
Anyone know if this is a school half term weekend, if it isn't things could get tricky (not sure if I'm allowed away on my own for a full week):(
So if we get to Colmar means a bit of time to enjoy the ride in on Monday as its looks like Colmar-Freiburg-E54 round Lake Constanz then Sat Nav it Gary usually means were lost m8:} Of course if i saw the other routes then who knows:dunno:
Half term is differant so cannot help you on that one.
MISS DYNAMITE
14-12-2003, 23:04
Originally posted by gaucho
Anyone know if this is a school half term weekend, if it isn't things could get tricky (not sure if I'm allowed away on my own for a full week):(
"Oop North", we break up for half term on Friday 28th May, and go back on Monday 7th June - don't know if it's the same for everyone. :dunno:
Message to self - must swing an extra day off work on the Monday :rolleyes:
My house to Dover is 186 miles and I going to try and catch the early crossing on Sunday 30th May. Eurotunnel is looking a good option at only £88.50 return. The seacat is still £186.00 without quoting 'May apex' (re: Dan's posting).
Calais to Nancy is another 280 miles making 460 miles in a day.
Nancy to Neustift is about 340 miles.
Anyone else fancy the tunnel rather than the boat (no sea sickness or bad weather problems) and is it still possible to get it cheaper still by booking two single journeys?
Return jouney I was looking at crossing the channel at about 6 or 7 pm in the evening Saturday 5th June.
Decisions, decisions... it's doing me 'ead in....
Anyone who wishes to travel on the Saturday and has a long journey to Dover is welcome to stay at our house on the Friday night.
Dan
Quoted by Brian
Anyone else fancy the tunnel rather than the boat (no sea sickness or bad weather problems) and is it still possible to get it cheaper still by booking two single journeys?
Hi Brian,
Sue and I are going via the Tunnel but will be travelling out, early on the Saturday morning and back late on the Sunday.
As Sue hasn't travelled far on the bike it will give us two nights before we get to Innsbruck, therefore breaking the distance up into more manageable segments.
Trouble is, it gives us a long run down from up North and the same on the way back, but if we take all day about it, that should be ok.
Cheers
Nev
Been talking to Dan some more about this, and having checked into prices again, I'm not going to get much change from £180 if I go Portsmouth route on a ferry. The cost of the extra fuel to go up to Dover and down from Calais is about £20 I reckon, at most, so going with him and the rest on Hoverspeed puts about £50 in me pocket. You can get a lot of schnaps for that:D :beer: :PUKE: :blush:
Been planning a route therefore using Hoverspeed, and taking 3 nights (4 days) to come back - I would like to spend 2 nights in Rudesheim if possible - it's a great place with loads of atmosphere in the Drosselgasse, and happily I sort of know the guy that owns the Rudesheimer Schloss, a good drinking establishement;)
So, here's the route, and a picture 'specially for Ace, and here's the distances to each night stop.
Calais - just past Reims = 190 miles. (number 4)
Reims - Engen = 270 miles (number 6)
Engen - Neustift = 190 miles (number 7)
Return
Neustift - Rudesheim = 340 miles (number 8)
Rudesheim - Bruges = 280 miles (number 9)
So, 3 days to get there and 4 days to get back make it quite a long trip, but pretty relaxed. It actually says 9 days in the autoroute file but that's coz we might be staying at Dan's Friday night. Leaving from his house Saturday, getting back Monday.
You'll notice there's almost no motorway riding. Don't like 'em, don't need 'em as far as I'm concerned.
Thoughts people.........???
See my next post for download of Autoroute file
Your link would not open :dunno:
Dan
Originally posted by Muppet
Try right clicking on it and doing a 'save as'
Clive I am with Dan on this one.
It won't open and wants to save as a short cut and not an autoroute file:goofy: where is it going wrong:dunno::bang:
Hmm........bit odd, let's try this:
**UPDATED - Again:rolleyes: **
Glad I did'nt book the Portsmouth ferry now. Also, I've just realised that coming back Monday will not affect my holiday entitlement as Monday 31st is a Bank Holiday & I was only intending to use 5 days:D
If this is a definite plan I'll book the ferry.
Dan & Jill - have you any room on Friday?
Cheers
Steve
Originally posted by Muppet
Hmm........bit odd, let's try this:
I'm still using Autoroute 2001 - is there any way to convert this file?
Cheers
Steve
Aahm -
Think you will find that the Monday is a Bank Holiday NOT the Friday
Nev
Originally posted by Boris
Aahm -
Think you will find that the Monday is a Bank Holiday NOT the Friday
Nev
:dunno:
:}
Originally posted by Redviffer
I'm still using Autoroute 2001 - is there any way to convert this file?
Cheers
Steve
Don't think so Steve, but I'm not sure. I can do print outs if you want. If we do this route and stay at Dan's Friday night, which way will you come? If you want you can stop here for a cuppa and we'll go up together from here, about an hour and a half to Dan's from here.
Clive,
Last time I used the motorways going to Dans & came back from Dover on the A303.
I'll be leaving after work on Friday, so if you don't mind a late(ish) start that would probably be a good idea(with any luck I'll be able to skive off early). I guess it would be A35/A31 to yours.
Have you booked the ferry yet?
Steve
Steve, I don't mind what time you get here, happy to wait and yes A35/A31 (then down the A337 to mine), or we could meet at Rownhams services on the M27 (just before M3) to save you the few miles down to here if you prefer.
Not booked ferry yet, just waiting for Keiko to make sure she can get the extra Monday (7th) off work to give us that extra day. Oh, and Dan's doing Hoverspeed, so I'll go with that, it's cheaper.
BTW its The Seacat From Dover
Hoverspeed was fine last time. Can you let me know when you're ready to book. I'm fine ror a return on Sunday or Monday. I'm not sure how long the May Apex price will be held for.
Steve
Right I'm going by eurotunnel, 9.06am on Sunday 30th May returning Saturday 5th June 7.01pm. Members will know where to look for a 'wizzi' suggestion.:}
PM me if you want the cost.
When I spoke to Hoverspeed the following bike places were available:
Dover to Calais
29/5/04 07:00 20 places
29/5/04 08:00 4 "
29/5/04 10:00 20 "
Calais to Dover
7/6/04 15:30 20 places
Steve
That's us booked then.
Sat 29th May 08.00 out
Mon 7th June 15.30 back.
£89 1 bike and 2 adults.....top stuff:D
Have just booked on Eurotunnel, same times as Bri-an:
9.06am Sunday 30th May
7.01pm Saturday 5th June
Al
Blues N Twos
31-12-2003, 19:38
Hi all,
I'm now first reserve for the trip and would like to do the one night stayover on route. I started reading all through the thread and then started getting tired eyes. Can meet somewhere on route from amersham or wherever I'm flexible.:) :)
funkybill
01-01-2004, 14:39
Originally posted by Big Al
Have just booked on Eurotunnel, same times as Bri-an:
9.06am Sunday 30th May
7.01pm Saturday 5th June
Al
Ditto
Popular guy, our Brian.
To those that have booked the train where are you stopping on the way down?just thinking it would be nice to be in the same hotel in the evening.
Just out of interest who is doing the two nights down an who is doing one night?
funkybill
02-01-2004, 15:44
Ace
Current plan is Brian and me to do one night down and back, but there is a possibility that we could be doing a 2-nighter on the way down.
As to where to stop the night before......:dunno:
Hadn't got that far. I usually just go straight from home and make a 6a.m. start but I'm open to suggestions.
We have arranged to stay in Folkestone, details as follows.
We will travel from Durham on the Friday and stay in Folkestone on the Friday Night, get the Chunnel about 8am on the Saturday.
We will be staying two nights enroute before getting to Innsbruck.
On the return we will get a late train through the chunnel on the Sunday evening and stay in the same hotel in Folkestone that night and travelling home on the Monday.
Hotel Details as follows.
Travel Inn
Folkestone
Cherry Garden Lane,
Folkestone,
Kent
CT19 4AP
Tel: 08701 977 103
Fax: 01303 273641
Leave M20 at J13. At first roundabout turn right, at second
roundabout turn right onto Folkestone A20. At traffic lights
turn right. The Travel Inn is on the right (The Travel Inn is
a 5-10 minute drive to the Channel Tunnel)
Next to the Brickfield Brewst
£44.95 per room per night
Local Information
Alternatives Nearby.
Dover (West)
(5 miles away)
Dover (East)
(8 miles away)
Ashford (Central)
(12 miles away)
Ashford (North)
(16 miles away)
Whitstable
(18 miles away)
Margate
(22 miles away)
Maidstone (Hollingbourne)
(26 miles away)
Sittingbourne Kent
(26 miles away)
Hastings
(30 miles away)
Maidstone (Sandling)
(31 miles away)
Cheers
Nev
It would seem i am doing one night each way on the way down theres two options both with resturants/parking both are Ibis ones in Nancy Brabois (http://www.ibishotel.com/ibis/JSPView.svlt?pageID=reservez/fr_top.jsp&local_geo=fr&nom_ville=Nancy%2CFrance&key_attribute_weblogic.auth.status=1&key_attribute_ecran=liste_hotel) near the motorway.second idea wasColmar Horbourg (http://www.ibishotel.com/ibis/JSPView.svlt?pageID=reservez/fr_top.jsp&local_geo=fr&nom_ville=Colmar%2CFrance&key_attribute_weblogic.auth.status=1&key_attribute_ecran=liste_hotel)but i think Nancy may be the best on the way down seems more halfway.
OK, looks like we got us a convoy.......
Booked for eurotunnel 9.06 Sunday 30th and Back 7.01 Saturday 5th.
Now where is it we're going?
Boris we are taking the 8am seacat with Muppet and Redviffer. We could meet up in Calais and have a convoy :dunno: ;)
Jill
Sounds like a plan Jill.
We have worked out a route with Charles (CRVFR) roughly taking in Reims, Nancy, Stasbourg, Lake Constance then on to Innsbruck. Not planning to book any accomodation just stop when we find a nice place and crashing between Reims and Nancy for the 1st night and Lake Constance on the 2nd night.
Obviously by doing it this way everyone who tags along will have to be responsible for finding their own accommodation as and when they want to call it a day.
Charles has just got a new toy (a sat nav device) so the above route is very loose as he will be using sat nav. to get us where we want to go.:h
Have you decided on a route or does this sound good to you and your crew?
Love and Hugs
Nev + Sue
There was some talk of getting to Nancy on Saturday night and then two fairly light days to get the rest of the way, giving a bit more time to enjoy the scenery.
Steve
Have a look at Muppet's route earlier in this thread.
Or give me a call if you like
Dan
We have booked this Hotel
http://www.ibishotel.com/ibis/fichehotel/gb/ibi/1584/fiche_hotel.shtml#info
Room for 2 is 49 euro.
We plan to see just how far we get on the second day and find a hotel when we have had enough.
Get booking
Dan
Hi Dan,
I've just had a look at Clive's route and its very close to the route we have layed down.
Sue and I will have just travelled 350 miles from Durham the day before, and as this is the first time Sue has been any distance at all on the bike, I didn't want to push it too far. Hence the shortish first stop.
On saying that, she may be fine and we may well be able to carry on down to Nancy. But I thought theres nothing worse than having to push on to a pre booked hotel when all you want to do is stop.
I had a little of this myself in Spain in September and it can really spoil the day.
I think what we'll probably do, is head for the same hotel as you in Nancy, but if we need too, stop earlier and we may be able to catch up the next day.
Do you have any ideas about you 2nd nights hotel, cos I'm told Lake Constance is a very nice area.
Cheers
Nev
Yes we plan to stay near Lake Constance too but since there are plenty oh hotels we'll just turn up when we have had enough.
Dan
Hotel is booked, just need to sort out travel insurance now:D
Steve
Nice one Steve :yo: :yo:
Dan
For anyone that's interested, I've been looking at the maps that came with my GPS, and the coordinates for the Ibis at Nancy are -
N 48 39.047
E 6 08.775
or at least as far as I can tell :D Actually they're the coords for No4 Allee de Bourgogne, as the hotel web site doesn't tell you the exact number of their address. By the way, anyone who is a bit of a gadget freak should get a GPS a.s.a.p. - they're great. I only bought one as Staples had some units at half-price - the Garmin GPS V cost me £199.50 instead of it's usual price of £350-400.
Regards,
Charles
I only bought one as Staples had some units at half-price - the Garmin GPS V cost me £199.50 instead of it's usual price of £350-400.
Doesn't have the offer on their website - I guess I'll be visiting their store in Bradford tomorrow (shhhh, don't tell Tricia :blush: )
There's a floating stage for part of the summer..........
It represents death reading the Book of Life
There is a bit more infohere (http://www.show-control.com/docs/Bregenz-2.pdf) The book is for a past production of Verdi's A masked ball.
Thats us booked, Sea Cat 8am 29/05/04 and First nights stop over Nancy.
Mike & Heather:k
Originally posted by sniffer
Thats us booked, Sea Cat 8am 29/05/04 and First nights stop over Nancy.
Mike & Heather:k
Nice one:D
Steve
SilverF1
10-01-2004, 20:13
I've booked Eurotunnel crossing 0758 29/5/04. :)
Also booked into the Ibis at Nancy Brabois for Saturday night. :)
If anyone wants to share the room and halve the cost......
I'll be meeting Boris for the train and link up with the rest near Calais (?).
Hi all,
I need to book my crossings before I can pay my deposit and their seems to be two options, both Eurotunnel:
Leave Saturday 7:58 - with silverF1 and boris - then meet up with the other Saturday riders, take three days to get there.
or
Leave Sunday 9:06 - with funkybill, bri-an, big al, clarky and ace and take two days to get there.
I don't really want to spend more time than I have to getting to and from Innsbruck, so favour the second option but have no concept of the distance to be travelled\hours in the saddle\ etc. I am happy to cruise at 90 on dual carriageways, but will not do that speed around the twisty bits.
Also I definately need to travel in company having never driven or riden in Europe before, and being the sort of person who gets lost on a rideout to Rye.
So would anyone mind me tagging along?
Thanks,
Giles
funkybill
12-01-2004, 17:56
I certainly don't have a problem with your company Giles.
As the "plan" stands, leaving Calais at 9:45-ish I'm looking to do 200-odd miles of motorway to Reims, so that then leaves about another 180 on various roads, some of which will hopefully be "interesting" before a stop at somewhere like Colmar, near the German border - so say 3 hours motorway including a stop, takes us to 1-ish, then another 4-5 to get to Colmar.
Day 2 is 270 miles, no motorways, so about 6-7 hours.
Over that sort of distance I doubt anyone will be giving it serious cherries round the twisty bits for long.
Ace mentions stopping at Nancy overnight, which is closer to halfway, but when you take into consideration the time spent travelling, rather than the distance, Colmar is a better bet because of all the motorway at the start of the route.
If you've never ridden in Europe before you are in for a treat - you won't want to come back.
Giles you are also very welcome to join us. You know I'm slow and I'll be taking it easy. It's up to you of course :)
Jill
Hi Bill i have not made any final decisions yet but have done the maths much like yours.I had two hotels marked out one in Nancy one In Colmar (http://www.ibishotel.com/ibis/gb/cartographie/france_ne.shtml) I would like to make Colmar as the first days travel looks a little easier road wise.Colmar town (http://www.ibishotel.com/ibis/fiche...che_hotel.shtml)
funkybill
12-01-2004, 23:12
I like the look of Colmar as well. Only trouble with the Ibis is it's 3k out of town so if we're up for a few beers, we're stuck with luke-warm Kronenburg from the hotel reception fridge. Not a big deal, but might be worth checking a few hotels nearer the town.
originally posted by Toddy:
I don't really want to spend more time than I have to getting to and from Innsbruck, so favour the second option but have no concept of the distance to be travelled\hours in the saddle\ etc. I am happy to cruise at 90 on dual carriageways, but will not do that speed around the twisty bits.
Toddy,
IMO the time travelling is not wasted if you are enjoying it, did you get the bike to ride it; or to get you to where you want to go?
If it's your transport, then great it'll get you there, you may well be too shagged the first night to enjoy yourself, but at least you'll be there quick.
That was preach mode:
May I apologise and explain myself a little.
Don't forget, you are riding on strange roads, on the wrong side, and don't know where your'e going.
The French "D" roads are fantactic, you should never need to see a motorway or "A" road.
But by doing this you will take longer to get there and it will take a lot more navigating, but you will enjoy getting there.
If you need to get there quick I can recommend a good flight.
After all this said, I may well be out of order and you may not have the time to take an extra couple of days for the travelling, it would be a shame, because if as you say, you havn't been to europe before, then you will miss out.
I KNOW!!!!!!
But i'm only saying what I think:f :f
I get me coat now.
Whatever Enjoy
Nev
There is another in the town centre just off the A35.http://www.ibishotel.com/ibis/fichehotel/gb/ibi/1377/fiche_hotel.shtml
Toddy you should cross France on that Yamaha and still get off with a smile which ever way you go.
Toddy,
Scratch all I said mate the FJR will make easy work of it, if i were going to change my bike I think I would be joining you.
Nev
PS Should check the facts before I assume:blush:
Thanks for all your responses and kind offers of company, I think I'll compromise between the two types of rideout by taking the longer three day route there (getting used to Europe, not getting too tired) and by taking the shorter two day route back.
All I need to do now is book some tickets, outbound Saturday 7:58am, return Saturday 7:01pm.
Now what else do I need to do? Notify my insurers? Oh, and find my passport.
Now what else do I need to do? Notify my insurers? Oh,
Please make sure that you tell your ins company that you are going on a bike. I found that I was not insured by for a bike over 125! (That was on my holiday insurance) For the bike all you need is a green card.
You also need an E111 from the post office.
funkybill
13-01-2004, 21:45
Originally posted by ace
There is another in the town centre just off the A35.http://www.ibishotel.com/ibis/fichehotel/gb/ibi/1377/fiche_hotel.shtml
That looks a lot more promising - well spotted Ace.
Toddy - you take your time mate, if you've got it, enjoy it. I only booked the outward trip on Sunday morning because I didn't want to push it any further than I had to with SWMBO. She now informs me she is swanning off to France the previous Thursday, coming back Tuesday, so in theory I could now clear off on Friday night with no worries!:bang:
Now what else do I need to do? Notify my insurers? Oh, and find my passport You of course know to take out holiday insurance for you and Wendy used these last year (http://www.hondavfrclub.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10336&highlight=holiday+insurance)Whoever you use check the small print they don't always cover bikes.
Right all booked up out on 30/5 9.06am return 5/6 7.01pm.
Is the Ibis in Colmar a definite or shall I hold fire before booking.
funkybill
14-01-2004, 17:21
I'm OK with that - anyone else on the Sunday convoy got any other thoughts?
ibutcher
14-01-2004, 18:46
i have the same crossing times can i join the convoy please:)
anyone want to share a room?
My view is to pile on the miles on the first day and have an easier fun filled second day, arrive at the Hotel before the heaving masses and help myself to the bar:beer: :beer:
Ibis at Colmar sounds OK to me.
Blues N Twos
14-01-2004, 22:46
I will be joining you guys as well. I have been in contact with
Ace about this.Can anyone tell me how much room was left on the crossing and who is it your crossing with.
Regards Jon:)
Blues N Twos
14-01-2004, 22:47
When I say who is it I mean what company do I book with Ie eurotunnel etc.:dunce:
ibutcher
14-01-2004, 22:56
i booked with eurotunnel using Wis's cheap crossing thread in the members section ( club discounts )
Yep now booked on the train:D
funkybill
15-01-2004, 19:26
What about the Saturday night stopover for us Midlanders and Westerners? Sunday will be a long enough day as it is without having to get up at 5 and do 160-odd miles to Folkestone as well. Any thoughts of a good place to stop with a few pubs nearby?
(I've just noticed a recurrent theme in my posts on this thread - like how close are the hotels to bars? Worrying)
Blues N Twos
15-01-2004, 19:49
:D OK thatsme booked on the train as well. 09.06 going out and 19.01 coming back.
Iv'e never done a holiday like this before and I can't wait.
I will try and get a day's advanced riding with one of our Paramedic motorcyclists as they do the exact same rider training as the Police do.
Whoopee.:D :D
Originally posted by funkybill
(I've just noticed a recurrent theme in my posts on this thread - like how close are the hotels to bars? Worrying)
Bill,
You really shouldn't take your work home with you :p
(Bill's one of those blokes responsible for refitting old pubs to look like, er, old pubs ;) :} )
Actually staying in a pub, with rooms, is a good idea. Any good pubs in or around Folkestone with cheap and cheerful rooms??
Very tempted to stay over at Folkestone on the Saturday night. Can't find any cheap hotels or pubs, but there are quite a few traditional B&B. I'm going to check some out tomorrow. See:
http://www.bed-breakfast-hotels.co.uk/search.php?town=Folkestone&country=EN
Have people started to think about the return journey ?
Al
I've booked in here for Saturday 29 May, £22.50 b&b
http://www.wycliffehotel.com/
Cheers Big Al.
You have company, Bill and I are also booked in.:beer:
As things stand I'll probably blitz down from here (J4 M3 ) in the morning. (about 112 miles if i recall from last year) Fall back position will be the in-laws in Herne Bay if the weather looks iffy.
So anyone heading in the same direction and wants to join me let me know.
Accomodation on Saturday. Whatever suits the group best. I'll keep going as long as it takes so Colmar sounds good, if that's the general consensus.
29.5.04......... Blade.......... Nancy
29.5.04......... She............ Nancy
29.5.04......... Muppet....... Nancy
29.5.04......... Redviffer..... Nancy
29.5.04......... Sniffer ....... Nancy
29.5.04......... Silver F1...... Nancy
29.5.04......... Toddy ........ Nancy
29.5.04......... FakeBlonde.. Nancy
29.5.04......... Boris........... Reims+
29.5.04......... CRVFR......... Reims+
30.5.04......... Gaucho....... Colmar?
30.5.04......... Bri-an......... Colmar
30.5.04......... Big Al......... Colmar
30.5.04......... Funkybill...... Colmar
30.5.04......... Ace............. Colmar
30.5.04......... Clarky......... Colmar
30.5.04......... BluesNTwos. Colmar
? ................ Zuri.............. ?
30.5.04......... ibutcher....... Colmar
30.5.04......... Chris S......... Colmar
30.5.04......... Hutch.......... ?
Does this seem about right?
I'll update as people confirm
Steve
Steve,
Put me down for 30.5.04......... Clarky...... Colmar
I'll be travelling with CRVFR, we won't be trying to get that far on the first day unless its by accident.
More probably somewhere between Reims and Saint-Dizier.
It really depends how Sue feels, I do not want to push her further than she feels comfortable going, especially as this is her first time outside the UK on the bike.
Otherwise it might be her last:h
Cheers
Nev
Steve, I'm booked in at Nancy for the first night.
Giles
ibutcher
19-01-2004, 18:32
i should be going 30-5-04 to Colmar
:)
Right! Booked on the 9.06 euro-tunnel Sunday 30th Back on the 19.01 Saturday 5th June. Staying at the Ibis in Colmar on the 30th
(I assume we are staying there on the way back?)
Booked into the IBIS Colmar (Centre Ville) later for Funkybill and myself. Not too sure about the way back, perhaps somewhere closer to Calais may be better????
Thats me booked on the train. 9 of the clock out sun & back on sat 7pm.
Staying in colmar in the out of town ibis.
Havn't decided where to stay on way home yet.
Look forward to seeing you all.
Anyone got a convoy going passing bournemouth on way to chunnell?
colmar in the out of town ibis. Do we smell then??????There is another in the town centre just off the A35.http://www.ibishotel.com/ibis/fiche...che_hotel.shtml Think i'll be booking in here when i get round to it.
FakeBlonde
21-01-2004, 10:09
Right
Ferry booked for 29th Sat morning, Ibis in Nancy booked for Sat night.
Blade and She have a full house, so anyone else close by able to put me up on the Friday night, please?
VMTIA
Sheila you are still welcome to stay, it'll just be a bit chaotic cos it's only a tiny house.
Jill
FakeBlonde
21-01-2004, 10:31
OK, thanks Jill.. just thought I would see if anyone else would.. don't want you too crowded now!
Will def keep you in mind, thanks again.
Colmar Centre for the 30th may.
One room for two persons at 61 Euros.
Me and Hutch now fixed up...
Return trip as yet undecided
Originally posted by wendle
Thats me booked on the train. 9 of the clock out sun & back on sat 7pm.
Staying in colmar in the out of town ibis.
Havn't decided where to stay on way home yet.
Look forward to seeing you all.
Anyone got a convoy going passing bournemouth on way to chunnell?
Wendle, I think everyone else is in the town centre Colmar IBIS, are you going to join us??:beer:
Mark_Hutch
21-01-2004, 13:17
Booked on the 9.06 euro-tunnel Sunday 30th Back on the 19.01 Saturday 5th June
whoopiee
ibutcher
21-01-2004, 17:53
got me room booked Colmar IBIS center of town:)
Those that have booked rooms are they twins?singles?are you sharing/spliting costs of Colmar Hotel?
30.5.04......... Gaucho/Sharon....... Colmar?
30.5.04......... Bri-an/Funkybill........ Colmar
30.5.04......... Big Al......... Colmar?
30.5.04......... Ace/Loz............. Colmar?
30.5.04......... Clarky/Hutch......... Colmar
30.5.04......... BluesNTwos. Colmar
30.5.04......... ibutcher....... Colmar
30.5.04......... Chris S......... Colmar
29.5.04......... Blade.......... Nancy
29.5.04......... She............ Nancy
29.5.04......... Muppet....... Nancy
29.5.04......... Redviffer..... Nancy
29.5.04......... Sniffer ....... Nancy
29.5.04......... Silver F1...... Nancy
29.5.04......... Toddy ........ Nancy
29.5.04......... FakeBlonde.. Nancy
29.5.04......... Boris........... Reims+
29.5.04......... CRVFR......... Reims+
30.5.04......... Gaucho....... Colmar?
30.5.04......... Bri-an......... Colmar
30.5.04......... Big Al......... Colmar
30.5.04......... Funkybill...... Colmar
30.5.04......... Ace............. Colmar
30.5.04......... Clarky......... Colmar
30.5.04......... BluesNTwos. Colmar
? ................ Zuri.............. ?
30.5.04......... ibutcher....... Colmar
30.5.04......... Chris S......... Colmar
30.5.04......... Hutch.......... ?
Does this seem about right?
I'll update as people confirm
Steve
funkybill
21-01-2004, 19:11
Just some random thoughts about the ride back to Calais; obviously we could go back the way we came, which would be relatively easy, or we could ride back through Germany, e.g. Black Forest (lots of fabulous roads and choccy-box scenery), across to the Mosel for an overnight stop, then across the Ardennes (more fabulous roads but with Belgians), before dropping onto the motorway for a final lick up to Calais. Should be about the same distance as the ride down.
Whaddya reckon?
Originally posted by She
Sheila you are still welcome to stay, it'll just be a bit chaotic cos it's only a tiny house.
Jill
Have you got room for six bikes in the garage? If not, the one least likelly to get nicked can stop outside. I guess that'll be the GS then:}
Steve
Blues N Twos
21-01-2004, 19:35
I havn't booked the Colmar yet but I don't mind dossin down with someone to keep costs down..... PM me or post message if there are any takers.
:k
Meant in the best possible taste of course.
:D :D :D
Steve we've built a new garage at the end of our garden, and still have the use of the old one at present so we should fit them all in I think. If we have to leave any outside we'll chain em together
Jill
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ace
[B]Do we smell then??????
Yes, and how.
Thats what all the others say anywho :k
Better get me ass in gear and move on down.
Jill
I was pretty sure that you had plenty of space, it was just a cheap shot at the expense of Clive's new purchase:blush:
Steve
Originally posted by funkybill
Just some random thoughts about the ride back to Calais; obviously we could go back the way we came, which would be relatively easy, or we could ride back through Germany, e.g. Black Forest (lots of fabulous roads and choccy-box scenery), across to the Mosel for an overnight stop, then across the Ardennes (more fabulous roads but with Belgians), before dropping onto the motorway for a final lick up to Calais. Should be about the same distance as the ride down.
Whaddya reckon?
Sounds a good idea. Were you thinking about Cochem for the stopover, or somewhere with a few more attractions ?
I guess at some point we need to think about planning the routes, and providing some maps, so there isn't a total reliance on someone leading the way.
Depending how many nights you're travelling back over, I would recommend riding the Romantic Road to Wurzburg on the Friday.
See http://www.romantischestrasse.de/uk/index.php3
funkybill
23-01-2004, 08:16
I was actually thinking of Trier as an overnight - seemed a nice place from the brief visit we paid there last year.
Steve, trouble with the Romantische Strasse is we only have one stop on the way back and it would take us way too far East - envy you the ride though. Any tips for good roads through the Schwarzwald would be good though.
Originally posted by funkybill
Any tips for good roads through the Schwarzwald would be good though.
I understand the B500 is THE road to take though the Black Forest, but some of it may be closed to motorcyclists at the weekend (ridden some fantastic roads in the Sauerland that were closed to bikers due to the fact that they resemble the Cat & Fiddle pass and bikers kept killing themselves........)
funkybill
25-01-2004, 21:28
How about this for the route back for the 1-night contingent?
Day 1 - 420 miles via a few twisty Black Forest roads to Trier
Day 2 - 300 miles via the Ardennes, over some roads that I have done before, then motorway to Calais.
Bill,
That looks one fantastic route, you didn't get Autoroute to automatically generate that did you.
I think all those twisties will make a great finish to the holiday rather than A to B motorways, so I'm very keen to do this.
Only possible issue is that there are an incredible number of road changes, or at least that how it looks on the map, so I wonder if we should adopt a formal drop off system, rather than trying to read off a map.
Al
we should adopt a formal drop off system, rather than trying to read off a map.
I'm with you on that one Al. With that kind of distance to cover we won't have time to wait and catch up or back track for anyone who misses the turns. (like me f'rinstance!). Suggest we agree the system before we leave rather than discuss it afterwards:rolleyes:
We used the drop off system on the way back from Germany and it worked very well :)
Jill
funkybill
26-01-2004, 09:07
I hope that the navigation isn't as scary as it might look. Obviously a drop-off system will help, and re-grouping points at regular intervals to keep everyone reasonably in touch. Also once everyone is happy with a route, I can produce notes, based on the rally navigation tulip system, which gives a diagram of each major junction (based on Autoroute - I'm not planning to go over and do a personal recce!), mileages between them, etc. which you stick in your tank-bag. I've done hundreds of miles abroad with groups using this system without major problems.
funkybill
26-01-2004, 10:13
Trier doesn't seemed overwhelmed with cheap hotels but I found this;
www.hotelindex.org/germany/trier/hotel_nh_trier.html
funkybill
26-01-2004, 14:11
Sunday 30th May route Calais to Colmar for the 1-night contingent, for comment.
funkybill
26-01-2004, 14:14
.......and similarly for Colmar to Neustift.
Blues N Twos
26-01-2004, 15:07
Hi Funkybill,
I'm with you on that one. Did you send the attachments on exel or something because I'm having trouble opening them. :dunce:
Hotel looks fine Bill and I'm happy to put myself in your hands re route. Specially as I don't have an uptodate european version of autoroute!
As long as i can still see the one in front it'll be fine!
Ah Trier, I remember it now, hours walking round in 90 degree heat, with full leathers looking for a black arch.(Porto Nigra). To find it heavily disguised as a performance stage..... (I won't mention the red traffic light either.....).
Bill happy with the hotel and the route. Thanks for coming up with suggestions for us sheep to follow.:} :}
Found it, but there was a music festival on....
Bill,
Routes look great, and hotel fine.
Think you need to change your name to "The Navigator"
cheers,
Al
funkybill
26-01-2004, 20:47
Originally posted by Big Al
Think you need to change your name to "The Navigator"
Al, never exactly sat beside Colin McRae, but that's what I did many years ago.
Blues N Twos, you need MS Autoroute 2003 to open the attachments up - I can post them as an overall view of the route but they would be at such a tiny scale that they would be of bugger-all use.
As for the rest of you - baaaaaahhhh.
Ooops, careful, Muppets looking this way.......
On a serious note, how far do we want to travel between stops? When I am doing a long trip, I tend to go about 90 minutes/100-120 miles on motorways and dual carriageways, and about 60 minutes/50-60 miles on other roads. Anyone not comfortable with that?
Seems to be around nine bikes at the moment could you put some road numbers up Bill so can get an idea off the return route?The ride rules would have to be agreed first so folks would know what to expect.
Frequency of stops seems a bit high, but I guess if it's being used as an opportunity for the group to close up again it's reasonable, as long as every stop doesn't turn into a half hour one - could result in a very long day.
Other point worth taking on is to refuel all together, especially at the start.
sounds excellent to me, Bill. Now I can't wait.
Would be nice to see the routes for those of us with out MS Autoroute 2003.
How about just the route notes. I can shove these into the GPS and bobs your uncle.
For those who wanted Bills proposed route in a different format, I hope this works....
www.hondavfrclub.org/pics/austria1.gif
Austria day 2 (on a roll now)
www.hondavfrclub.org/pics/austria2.gif
Overview of two day route back, stopping in Trier
www.hondavfrclub.org/pics/austriareturn.gif
funkybill
27-01-2004, 19:31
This is a condensed version of the outbound route instructions - you should be able to follow them off a Michelin map or decent road atlas;
OUTBOUND
30th May
Calais - A26
break at 115 miles
continue A26 - A4
Exit A4 at exit 28, Chalons-en-champagne (no more motorway)
D994 to Bar-le-duc - break at 200 miles
N135 - N4 to Gondreville
D909 to Neuves-Maisons - break at 290 miles
D570 - D22 - D414 to Rambervillers
D32 to St. Die - break at 350 miles if needed
N59 - D416 to Colmar (not going through the tunnel - nice twisty looking bit of road)
Colmar - 380 miles total
31st May
Colmar
N415 - cross into Germany at Breisach am Rhein
B31 - Bad Krosingen
L123 (seriously twisty) - B317 (still twisty) - Todtnau
Schluchsee - lakeside break at 65 miles
via Bonndorf, Grimmelshofen, Tengen, Engen (roads too twisty and numerous to list)
B31 to Lake Constance - break at 120-odd miles (if needed)
Follow N shore of lake to Lindau or Bregenz for break at 155-160 miles
Main road to Innsbruck - decide at the time whether we do the tunnels or go over the Arlberg Pass
A13 - B143 Neustift - 290 miles total
I'll do the same for the return trip asap
Blues N Twos
27-01-2004, 19:58
Funky Bill and Brian,
It all looks good to me and thanks for the time and effort your
all putting in to make the journey there and back as much fun as possible.
:beer: :beer: :beer:
Regards
Jon.
funkybill
27-01-2004, 20:50
Originally posted by Blues N Twos
Funky Bill and Brian,
It all looks good to me and thanks for the time and effort your
all putting in to make the journey there and back as much fun as possible.
:beer: :beer: :beer:
Regards
Jon.
I enjoy plotting the routes almost as much as I enjoy riding them. Sad, really......
Anyway, the return trip;
RETURN (haven’t suggested stops for this bit)
4th June
Back via Bregenz and N shore of Lake Constance
B31 - A98 - A81(40 miles of motorway) North to Rottweil(!) - 220 miles
B462 to Freudenstadt - 245 miles
B28 - B500 (recommended by Sven) to Baden-Baden - 280 miles
B500 - cross Rhine into France - 315 miles
D4 - 3 miles of A35 motorway to D28
D34 to Wissembourg
D334 - L489/486 via Bundenthal, Dahn to Pirmasens (looks quite interesting on the map) - 340 miles
A62 motorway to Trier - 420 miles
5th June
Trier - B51 North to Bitburg (good fun from here to lunch at Durbuy)
L12 to Waxweiler
K137 West - L9 via Lichtenborn
L15 - Leidenborn - Stoubach
N693 - Reuland
N62 - Maldange
N827 - Beho
N68 - Bovigny - Trois Ponts - 75 miles
N66 - Hamoir
N831 - Durbuy - 100 miles (great place for lunch in the market square) NB this is a change from the route I posted which goes via Barvaux.
N983/921 to A15 motorway near Andenne - 130 miles
A15 - A7 - A16 - A25 - A16 (all motorway) to Calais - 295 miles (or some more cross-country stuff if there’s time)
Disclaimer
This route has been devised on the basis of information obtained from Michelin maps, Autoroute 2003 and a small amount of personal experience. The author takes no responsibility for road works, road closures, nasty road surfaces, particularly any form of excrement whether deposited by farm animals or other creatures, missing or misleading road signs, absence of petrol stations, public conveniences, nice little 3-star restaurants, fully-equipped Honda dealers with knowledge of where the fuses are on a VFR; or indeed anything else.
Normal terms and conditions apply - if it works, you can buy me a pint. If it doesn't - hope you manage to find your way home OK.
:D
you forgot to add:
or the person planning the route not being of sound body and mind for the return journey due to an over indulgence of German home distilled liquor.....:goofy: :blush:
funkybill
27-01-2004, 23:19
I think you mean;
Originally posted by Bri-an
or the person planning the route not being of sound body and mind for the return journey due to an over indulgence of German home distilled liquor which he has drunk in all good faith believing that all his "mates" around the table were drinking the same - instead of which the bunch of faithless two-faced turncoats were actually drinking water
so that's put that one straight then..........:rant:
funkybill
31-01-2004, 19:47
Brian and I are booked into the NH Hotel Trier for the night of 4th June on the return leg; 70 Euros for a double room, see the link I posted a few pages back.
http://www.hotelindex.org/germany/trier/hotel_nh_trier.html
funkybill
01-02-2004, 12:48
BTW I've emailed them asking about bike parking provision.
Originally posted by funkybill
Brian and I are booked into the NH Hotel Trier for the night of 4th June on the return leg; 70 Euros for a double room, see the link I posted a few pages back.
I'm booked in there too. :bow: ...so wait for me! :eek: :h
Toddy
funkybill
02-02-2004, 15:21
Wait for you? And you on an FJR 1300?
Errr....... I think it might be the other way round Toddy :}
will be pleased to join you at the bar.
Mark_Hutch
02-02-2004, 16:01
What he just said:beer: :yo:
I'm there too, what a coincidence :beer:
Thanks for the routes Bill and Brian, and the hard work. Booked into the NH Hotel Trier too.
Blues N Twos
02-02-2004, 22:17
With much thanks to ibutcher I am now booked in at the Trier
on the 4th as well.
Another piss up to be had then.:beer: :beer:
Hmm, thats strange! seems i have a room there aswel.
Big up to funky & bri for the info and maps.
Can't w8 to share a glass with you all. :beer:
Right, booked in at the Nancy Brabois Ibis for the Saturday night on the way down, gonna wing it on the Sunday night I think. Just waiting for details to come back for the trip home, I'll post them here when I get them.
Ferry is booked on sat morning 06.00 dover - calais and ibis nancy brabois that evening, after that......................:dunno:
Think we'll be winging it with you clive
Hi
Ime getting the 8.28 train and booked into nancy ibis, will arrange to meet you in calias looks like we have us a small convoy
;)
have I missed it some where or aren't we having t shirts this year?
Originally posted by rp168
have I missed it some where or aren't we having t shirts this year?
RUK is the T-shirt man and he isn't coming this year.
Errr I see, In that case I don't mind volunteering my time to organise some thing if there's enough interest....or if anyone else would like the challenge?????
rp168 good idea if you don't mind taking up the challenge
Jill
I thought T-shirts were compulsary, perhaps a bulk order for the agro, anni bash and the mosel may save costs??
funkybill
24-02-2004, 17:55
Originally posted by Bri-an
I thought T-shirts were compulsary, perhaps a bulk order for the agro, anni bash and the mosel may save costs??
What, with a sort of tick-box alongside each logo to indicate which one applies?
Or provide them with a strip of gaffa tape to obliterate the events you aren't attending.
You're on your own for the Mosel though Brian - we're all off to Austria:D
Yep...I don't mind at all Jill, maybe we should start a seperate thread????If one of the nice moderators(Dan) could make it a sticky??And then I'll get the ball rolling, prices, styles etc.
Bri-an......do you really want "AUSTRIA 2004" on your AGRO shirt?
But have to agree it just wouldn't be the same without T's, not so sure I'd want to organise shirts for ALL the clubs events, unless I change careers:D
Okay Dave :D you start the thread and we'll make it a sticky :D oerr missus
Jill
I was actually thinking of three tee shirts, one for each trip... saves on the laundry......... just that if as a group we order together perhaps the bulk pruchase (not size but quantity) may respect a better a price...
Maybe we should ask RUK where hegets them from?
I was thinking black T-shirt with a red Austrian Tour 2004 large white VFR logo and a red www.hondavfrclub.org website address - basically the same as the previous T-shirts but with the text in the colours of the Austrian flag.
funkybill
24-02-2004, 21:24
Originally posted by sven
Maybe we should ask RUK where hegets them from?
I was thinking black T-shirt with a red Austrian Tour 2004 large white VFR logo and a red www.hondavfrclub.org website address - basically the same as the previous T-shirts but with the text in the colours of the Austrian flag.
Maybe I'm being over-sensitive here, but the combination of Austrian colours (most famous son; A. Hitler Esq. ) and black T-shirts just worries me a bit........
Unless anyone knows better, I'm probably your man for Polo/T Shirts.
I sell the bloody things after all.
RP168, do you already have a source - if so I'll let you get on with it, if not I'll do it if you want.
Let me know, either way.
Cheers
Nev
Well volunteered Boris:beer: I'll have a medium for the AUSTRIA trip, one for the the agro and a third one for the anni bash in any colour except pink. Cheers;) ;)
funkybill
24-02-2004, 22:06
Originally posted by Bri-an
I'll have a medium for the AUSTIA trip, one for the the agro and a third one for the anni bash and one for the Dyslexics Ball :D :D
GIVE THAT MAN A JOB
No I don't no nuffin bout t shirts nor does DAVE just that i wear them once, chuck em on the floor, then the next thing is they turn up clean and fresh in my chest of draws??????????!!!!
Go for it Nev, its all yours (was waiting for some one else to volunteer)
:beer:
Good man Nev, one large for me please:D
Steve
Ok thats me dropped in it:p
No orders yet please.
I'll organise a QUICK poll re T Shirts or Polo Shirts and design first.
Nev
GOOD MAN.........will submit my order as soon as you allow me to!!!!
funkybill
02-03-2004, 16:09
Just to divert this thread back from how cool we'll all look in our colour-co-ordinated polo shirts to mundane stuff - like the journey :rolleyes: As it is Sunday when we'll be doing the first leg, there will of course, it being France, be NO BLOODY PETROL:eek:
Other than on the motorways of course. There are petrol stations at 80 miles, then 115, 152, 276 in a total route of 380, so the longest stretch should be 125-odd.
Anyone not comfortable with that? The alternative would be more motorway blasting to pick up the service stations we know will be open.
Incidentally, our total motorway toll fees will be about 16 euros on the current route.
5.25 gallon x 53mpg = 278 miles range.
Agh, I forgot you lot haven't got Tigers have you :D
Bill thanks for looking after us........
Big Al:f
PS: Perhaps you could carry some jerry cans on the Tiger... as you have them fitted already:} :}
originally quoted by Funkybill
Just to divert this thread back from how cool we'll all look in our colour-co-ordinated polo shirts to mundane stuff - like the journey
What was that yours is a pink one in Large:goofy:
funkybill
04-03-2004, 09:06
Originally posted by Boris
What was that yours is a pink one in Large:goofy:
Pink is just sooooo yesterday dahling.
Black is the new pink.
:PUKE:
have now got round to booking things.
We will be on the 1000hrs sea cat on the 29th and are booked into the imbis at nancy.
we are going to get Wed on the Friday.
Hope to catch up with you all on route.
John & Trudy
Here's a thought, doe's one have to sport a "GB" sticker on one's steed? :dunno:
Originally posted by wendle
Here's a thought, doe's one have to sport a "GB" sticker on one's steed? :dunno:
Yes you do I'm afraid
Dan
Those of us taking 3 days to go home, Dan kindly reminded that I'm supposed to be booking hotels for it, so can I check first that it's just the following:
Dan & Jill
Steve (Redviffer)
Me & Keiko
Mike & Heather (Sniffer)
Norman (Silver F1)
Sheila (Fakeblonde)
Been thinking about it, and also due to the cost of staying in Rudesheim, here's a different plan.
From Austria we ride up to Rothenberg, which is a beautiful medieaval walled town about 200 miles ride. There appear to be plenty of reasonably priced Pensions and suchlike there ranging from 25 - 55 euros for a single/double room.
Rothenberg (http://www.rothenburg.de/)
The hop from there to Rudesheim is only about 100 miles, which will give us plenty of time for exploring Rothenberg in the morning and Rudesheim in the afternon. Both of these are really worth walking around, and Rudesheim is a great place to spend an evening.
Rudesheim (http://www.ruedesheim.de/en/)
From Rudesheim we can then do a fairly big punch up to Brugge, which is about 280 miles. Brugge is another great place to visit, and we will have plenty of time the last morning (Monday) to explore and have lunch before getting to Calais for the 3.00pm crossing. Brugge to Calais is an 80 mile 1 hour blast along the motorway.
Brugge (http://www.brugge.be/toerisme/en/index.htm)
If anyone other than those mentioned above wants to join us on the 3 day return, please let me know ASAP so I can get hotels booked. I'll add confirmed prices here when I have them
Sounds good to me Clive :D :D
Dan
What's the situation regarding headlamp beam deflectors. Are they required these days?
:dunno:
get the crates flashing me over here so I don't think that it will change over there!
Did not bother last year.:dunno: :dunno:
Buy a VTEC, don't they have a flat beam?
Heather and I are also on the 3 day return, so can we join you?
Sniffer.:cool:
Originally posted by sniffer
Heather and I are also on the 3 day return, so can we join you?
Sniffer.:cool:
Ok, I'm still waiting for prices etc, I'll post when I have them
Right, I've heard back from the hotel in Rothenberg. It's called the Gasthaus Elke and is right in the centre of the town. 3 double rooms and 1 single booked, Steve unfortunately your room isn't en suite, but it is cheaper! Double rooms are 58 euros, single is 25 euros, that includes breakfast for everyone. Still waiting to hear back from Rudesheim and Brugge.
Thanks for getting this oganised Clive, I don't mind slumming it for one night:} Will probably be glad of some peace & quiet if my roomy in Austria snores anything like me:rolleyes:
If it's a problem at the other hotels I don't mind paying the extra, except for two breakfasts that is.
Steve
...if my roomy in Austria snores anything like me
Only when I'm unconscious Steve. :rolleyes:
Originally posted by clarky
Only when I'm unconscious Steve. :rolleyes:
:}
Plenty of liquid refreshment should solve any potential sleepless nights, along with a good pair of earplugs :D
Steve
Just what I was thinking! :beer: :beer: :beer:
Heard back from the Rudesheim hotel, we're all booked in there now. 56 euris for the double rooms, 38 for Seve's single, including breakfast.
Gasthof Krancher - Rudesheim (http://www.Gasthof-Krancher.de)
Dan, Norman, Mike (Sniffer) and Steve (Redviffer) please check your PM's regarding the Brugge hotel.
funkybill
02-05-2004, 09:21
I've just been back-tracking through this thread and, so far as I can tell, the following are doing the one-stop strategy to Neustift and back, i.e. Ibis, Colmar on Sunday night and NH Hotel, Trier the following Friday night;
Me (obviously)
Bri-an
Toddy
Clarky
Mark Hutch
Big Al
Chris S
Blues N Twos
Wendle
If that's correct, then hopefully you will all have booked your rooms - unlike Clive, I'm not doing the tour leader bit and booking them for you.
Not long now............ :D :D :D
Blues N Twos
02-05-2004, 20:08
I think you will find Ace is doing the same as well.
well I hope he is as we arranged to meet on the train. :dunno:
Thats us booked 6th June.
If im not mistaken that just leaves a room to find on the Sun night 30th May?
Sniffer & H :k
ibutcher
04-05-2004, 19:02
Hey dont forget me :D Funkybill
Blues N Twos i'm not doing the trip on the return to Trier i'm bailing out at about 300 miles along with Goucho i'm not as tough as you lot :}See here (http://www.bikersoracle.com/vfr/forum/showthread.php?t=25335)
I'm also doing Ace's route back.
Toddy
Do I have everything? I have emails to confirm...
- Eurotunnel booking; Sat 29/05/2004 at 07:58
- Ibis Nancy Brabois; Night of 29/05/2004
(nothing booked for the 30th)
- Sven's hotel for the 31st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd June
- Ibis Strasbourg Nord Haguenau; Night of JUN 04, 2004
- Eurotunnel booking; Sat 05/06/2004 à 19:01
So hopefully I'm covered. :dunno:
Still need to arrange insurance\green card\gb stickers\etc, but will do that after the AGRO.
Giles
I've decided the B&B for the Saturday is a "good idea" - less risk of sleeping in, finding I haven't packed everything etc etc, so Chris and Blues and Two's and Mark Hutch (?) I won't be joining you on the run down Sunday morning.
The Wyecliffe Hotel - folkestone still have some rooms if you want to join Funkybill, Big Al and Bri-an as well.
AND, I don't have any confirmation for the booking for NH Hotel Trier - does anyone else have anything from them? (They are now full) but I've e mailed them for verification as I have probably just lost the original e mail. PANIC OVER, I found it :D
I had a call from the Wycliffe Hotel tonight asking me if I was part of a larger group. Yes I said there's me Funkybill, Big Al, Club Dread, Blues and two's and a couple of others......... silence followed :} :}
Bill will you be playing around with the route anymore, if not I'll try and get it loaded into the GPS? :beer:
(PS: Good news about your wallet, first round on you :beer: )
Not booked in then? (I've PM'd him)
the guy seemed quite relaxed about a group of bikers arriving. He was telling me he has about 15 coming from Poland the folowing weekend and some others going over to the 24 hours event, or something, that weekend too. I hadn't realised B &T and the Dread had already booked as well! Should be quite a party...I wonder if that was why he went quiet :rolleyes:
Sorry Clarky I'm confusing things here........ The silence was due to the fact that most of names sound 'made up' if you know what I mean.
Not too sure who's actually staying at the Wycliffe :dunno: :dunno: apart from Big Al, Bill and myself.
Sorry Clarky I'm confusing things here........ The silence was due to the fact that most of names sound 'made up' if you know what I mean.
Not too sure who's actually staying at the Wycliffe :dunno: :dunno: apart from Big Al, Bill and myself.
Ok. I assumed the call was triggered by my reservation this evening as I mentioned there were at least 3 others booked in, but I see the point. I mentioned there could be a few others, ie Blues and Twos and Chris, Mark etc. also booking. He seemed quite happy about it. Might mean sharing if everyone wanted to stay.
funkybill
13-05-2004, 12:16
If anyone's got any worries about the NH Trier hotel reservation, ring them on 0049 651 9280 - they speak good English. I checked and Brian and I are confirmed.
Blues N Twos
14-05-2004, 15:13
After weighing it all up i have decided to book into
The Wyecliff Hotel on the sat eve.
Breaks the journey up nicely and I get a lay in now. :beer:
I'm sharing with you Chris. :p
Just booked into the Wycliffe today wil be staying on the Friday evening.
GONNA TRASH IT :}
funkybill
14-05-2004, 23:00
Just booked into the Wycliffe today wil be staying on the Friday evening.
GONNA TRASH IT :}
Well, at least Momma will be leaving the rest of us alone on Saturday after a night with you......... :k
Well, at least Momma will be leaving the rest of us alone on Saturday after a night with you......... :k
Mmm better pre worn Sue :D
Is their any one in the "Brian, Bill ,Clarky, Blues and Twos, Mark Hutch, Etc....... one stop strategy group" who wants to share the hotel on the way down. I'm reasonably clean, drink a lot and don't snore (I think). I have space in the IBIS Colmar. The Ibis is easy to un-book . Any takers?
P.S. booked into the Wycliffe after advice from Clarky (so it's all his fault "Blues and twos" )
Hi Clarky,
I am having the same problem with the e-mail from the NH in Trier.
Can you let me know the title of the reply or a key word I can search on?
funkybill
15-05-2004, 19:19
I've slightly tweaked the routes down and back, trying to relieve the tedium of long motorway stretches, and finding some inviting twisties now that I've got the real maps, as opposed to the bland Autoroute versions.
I also have some tank-bag route directions which I will post up when they are finished, for the non-GPS endowed amongst us. And indeed for the GPS-endowed, for when the satellite goes into eclipse :rolleyes:
NB - Route from Neustift to Trier modified and deleted from this post - see posting 20 May post for new route.
The route on the first day return we split at D4 onto D648 then N63 to hotel other than that we follow Funkysbills route :)
Second day we follow the N3 & N44 till we get bored at Cambrai were hit the motorway if we havent done it before.
red rocket
16-05-2004, 20:29
any ideas why when I try to look at your routes Funky Bill or yours Ace autoroute opens but says unexpected file format mine is Auto route express 2000 should it work ok ?? :beer: :beer: Ian
I think you may need auto route 2002 OR LATER :dunno:
red rocket
16-05-2004, 21:48
I think you may need auto route 2002 :dunno:
Oh well thanks Bri-an have to try & burn off a copy from somebody no I meant buy one soon :beer: :beer: Ian
I'm using 2004 :eek:
Posh Git :D
Alun,
Is that right we are going South of the lake on the way back through Switzerland?
Alun,
Is that right we are going South of the lake on the way back through Switzerland?
Sorry Gary,
I havn't looked at your return journey.
I was refering to the outward journey.
Infact I've just checked, you go north both outward and return, so don't touch Switzerland.
Unless You arn't going with Bill (FunkyBill) :D
funkybill
17-05-2004, 22:56
North or South - that is the question.....
The One-Stop Strategy group route, as it stands, is North of Lake Konstanz outbound, and South of it, inbound. Just to save riding the same roads again really.
Gary iv'e copied Funlkybills route untill we split but this is why i've questioned the Switzerland bit as i'm getting bad vibes E111 has no use there and i'm now going to check my other insurances bike is covered in Europe but not sure about out of Europe?? :dunno:
Boris i've just checked Bills route and it does go through Switzerland on the return :eek:
Gary i'll ring you tomorrow to talk m8.
funkybill
17-05-2004, 23:17
I have no particular gripe about going through Toblerone-land - if anyone's uneasy about it, we can stay in Germany.
The E111 thing would be true of course - Switzerland is outside the EU - but it can't be a big hurdle getting over that, and of course, Svens group are doing the country on their way to Austria.
I've checked everything and i'm ok for the route back
Boris i've just checked Bills route and it does go through Switzerland on the return :eek:
Well I'm buggered if I could find a route through Switzerland :h :dunce:
I've checked everything and i'm ok for the route back
Ace
Does this mean your route won't be going into Swizz?
Sorry to cause confusion guys.
I've checked your route again, and it's quite clear your route takes you south of Lake Constance on your return journey :dunno:
Think I'll go and lay down :dunce: :bang:
For those with Tom Tom 3 and following Bill's route here are the itineraries to tie in with the autoroute 2002 files. I've used my HP IPAQ 2210 and the main roads of europe map which comes with TT3.
Brian,
I take it of got to adjust some of the preferences i.e. motorways to 0 mph e.t.c. and possibly link roads.
Gary
These are the settings I've used in MPH
Motorway 55
Int Road 59
Major 50
secondary 60
connecting 40
important local 50
local 31
destination 25.
Have fun................
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